Dexta Fan Blade and Fan Guard Issue

[Wee59dexta]

Fan Blade Question?

I have tried to fit a fan guard to the radiator and then fit it to the tractor but i've come up against a new problem. The fan blade will not fit inside the fan guard!! The fan blade looks like it has been bent and straightened, when i measure it the fan blade measures 15 inches. I looked the parts list which seems to list an additional blade as 15 inches. What size should a standard dexta fan blade be? I know this is an original blade as it is stamped ENFO.

I then measured the fan guard which was interesting as from left to right the guard measures 39cm (15 1/4 in) but from top to bottom it measures 40cm (15 3/4 in)? When i center the blade it will not clear the sides of the guard. It almost seems as if the inside of the guard is at no point a perfect circle preventing the travel of the blade. (Why is everything hard?)

Would anyone know if I need a new guard or is my fan blade too long or is there some other reason? Here are some pics...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skidancer/

Thanks a lot!

[john.n]

looks fine to me. have you fitted it on the tractor yet?
the blade wont sit too deep in the guard when fitted
Regards,
John

[Jerry Coles]

I had a similar problem when I fitted a Water pump and Fan blade of another engine and found it was too long and fouling the shroud so that I couldn't fit the front cowl. Replacing it with the original fan blade worked. The parts list shows an inner and an outer fan blade and the one I've got is the 15" outer one. The inner one is definitley shorter. Maybe for hotter climate two blades were used to increase air flow through the Rad?
Regards
Jerry
Bath
UK

[YorkshireDextaMan]

Just fit the cowl to the Rad, and then trim the end of the blade (or blades) with a hacksaw, untill you have enough clearance. It will be fine, i bought a new cowl and two blades from Agriline and did just that, Jim.

[GERRY]

it seems there has been a lot of issues with reproduction tin work
who ever makes these dont seem able to go the extra bit an make them the same as the
orignal ones, and the ones who do think they should charge extra for making them
properly if the blade does not fit the cowl properly contact the seller
he should made aware his supplier is making rubbish , you are paying good money
you should get what you pay for, well thats my rant for today. ihave in the past put two
dexta blades together in an orignal cowl with no problem so a signal blade should fit if
cowl is made properly, good luck Gerry

[Wee59dexta]

Thanks for having a look gents!

John, I have fitted it to the tractor, same problem.

Gerry I think your maybe right about the reproduction parts! I just wonder what size is the original blade meant to be?

Jim, I like the way you operate mate! I think thats the solution for me! Cheers

Regards,
Will

[YorkshireDextaMan]

Well thanks Will, i have to say that some of the things i read i think sometimes folks make things more difficult than they need be, I don't mean that disrespectfull, because sometimes things need to be (proper) so to speak. And Gerry and others are quite right, (no question about it) if your paying good money you should expect the service, and if your working to original theres no other way.
It's a bit like going to a Motor Factor, or Ebay, they usually have parts of varying quallity all to fit the same (situation) you make your choice AM or OE , but if you chose cheaper you should expect issues.

[GERRY]

The orignal dexta fan blade is 14 3/4 inches x 4inches ,
Gerry

[Wee59dexta]

Thanks for your reply Gents, just rubbed down my fan blade and found stamped on it part number E1ADDEN 8607 A, the fan blade inner which is listed on the parts list. So my blade is the proper original one. Just received an email from the guy at ****** who says 'he knows his fan cowels are correct'. Umm

Anyway what could be wrong with this? It must be the fan cowel!

Thanks again!

[GERRY]

it shouldnt make any differance being jacked up on not, this is just me thinking out loud are
holes on side of raditor in the right place could they oblongated or wided enough
to throw the cowl off , if agriline are sure their cowl is perfect and your blade is the right
one , you might just have to do as jim has said and trim a bit off the blade, go careful though
Gerry

[Wee59dexta]

Gerry,

Just been wrestling with it, its on the tractor now, the blade definitely doesn't clear the shroud. The holes on the shroud match the ones on the radiator. But it looks like i may have to cut a bit of the blade.

Thanks again!

[russelm]

Not convinced I would side with Agriline, there not exactly known for totaly reliable parts in my experience

[Wee59dexta]

Yea

[Jerry Coles]

Hi all
Just a small point about postage, many courier firms offer a cheaper rate for two packages to the same address (The perverse logic of marketing guru's no doubt) so thats why they wanted you to make a second order.
Jerry
Bath
UK

[JC]

Here's a reminder about posting the names of suppliers that you have issues with.

Gentlemen:
As the person who picks up the flak from suppliers, I am asking again that you do not name them publicly.

Having heard both sides of the original story I believe that sometimes, we do not help ourselves.

If you have a problem with a supplier TRY AND SORT IT OUT PRIVATELY!!! If you can get no satisfaction LET ME KNOW VIA A PM. I may be able to help on a PRIVATE basis but you do need to have tried to sort things out first.

The management team will then make a decision on whether to publish the company details on here.

We are NOT a consumer protection agency. We are also honor bound to give the supplier a say on here too!!

I have asked nicely before! Now I am pulling rank!! This is why we do not take advertising.

PS. We are not supporting ANY supplier. There are problems with everyone of them! A lot of the products come from one source which I will not name and will not purchase any of their products.

This board has no allegiance to any parts supplier.

[Wee59dexta]

Consider me wrists slapped! lol

[JC]

Thanks for editing your posts, Will. Some members joined after Brian posted that, or they have forgotten about it. A little reminder, now and then, never hurts.

[bazjon]

The picture you posted is a Major fan blade. No wonder it won't fit!

[Wee59dexta]

bazjon do you by any chance work for or are associated with the reproduction parts company in question?

Only 3 posts in 9 months, Each one advertising a product or defending a product supplied by a company I won't name but which was mentioned in your last post.

"I purchased a ******** nose cone from a local dealer. It did not fit at all, it was twisted to the left. I took it back and got a refund. I then purchased an ******* cone which I had no issues with, and to my surprise it was miles cheaper! Bonus! One major issue with fitting these is the axle carriers..."

I'm suspicious due to receiving an e mail to my private address asking me to remove the post. The reason given was that part number E1ADDN 8607 A is a fordson major part......? also is there not some kind of rule about mentioning/criticizing companies?

[bazjon]

You are right it seems that now there is a rule, which I did not come across when posting my difficulties with a nose cone. I simply joined in a conversation. In my reply to your issue I was just trying to help, I know that many Major part numbers start with E1A and your picture, I'm sure by the press marks is a major fan. You don't have to take any notice of me if you don't want to! I'm not defending anyone here, just sharing knowledge. No I'm not involved in that industry, and a good job by the look of it!

[Wee59dexta]

bazjohn apologies if I am wrong! It just seems oddly suspicious to me but coincidences can occur. Just shows how these suppliers are maybe trawling through enthusiast forums.

Re the part number, Can I refer you to page 99 of the Fordson Dexta parts list (Available on the downloads section) which states part number E1ADDN 8607 A as also a dexta part. Maybe this a something that needs highlighted, I'm not sure. All I know is that I have two Dexta fan blades, identical with part numbers stamped on them correlating with the Dexta parts list and one cowl which would not fit. I ow have a cowl that fits both...................

I will however gladly put on record that I had a very good response from the supplier, who changed the item without any problems!

[bazjon]

Hmmm see what you mean. I wonder if the major fan was used on dextas. Mine has a single blade which is thinner than yours.

[JC]

It's OK to say "I bought a cowl from Brand X Tractor Spares, it didn't fit, but I contacted them and they sent me a new one."
It's not OK to say "I bought a cowl from Brand X, and it didn't fit.", if you didn't contact them and try to resolve the problem first.
Also, if you have a problem with another member, please contact that member privately, or send a PM to the admins or mods.