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Standard wiring diagram

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:26 pm
by naildriver
Hey guys, My wiring is complete and the diagram recommended on this site was helpful but I did mine a little different. Maybe I didn't understand it completly but it looks as though you can turn the lights on without the key being turned to the "on". I wouldn't want some child turning my lights on and killing my battery. Maybe I just misunderstood it. I wish I knew how to pull up the diagram, but I don't.????

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:37 am
by commander
The original wiring was such that the key did not control the lights...
they could be turned on with key in either position.

A few times over the years I have bumped the light switch getting off the tractor and run the battery down.....after a time or two, I learned to turn around look to make sure they were off!
Mine is parked in a locked garage, so kids aren't the problem.

If I remember correctly, the key only switches the starter solenoid and the dash lights.

Re: Standard wiring diagram

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:04 am
by Bensdexta
naildriver wrote:I wish I knew how to pull up the diagram, but I don't.????
Just download the workshop manual, Section 9 Electrical System from Stefan's fordson-dexta.de site. The wiring diag is towards the end of this section. :wink:

Re: Standard wiring diagram

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:27 am
by Jos Cuypers
The lights should operate aside from the "ignition" key.
To avoid the battery from going flat, it is better to install a battery key.
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:12 am
by naildriver
I wired my lights "behind" my key and not "in front" of my key like the wiring diagram passed around on this site. Are you saying that I need to change it?

Re: ???

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:18 am
by Jos Cuypers
Legally, the parking lights should be able to be turned on when the ignition key is not on the tractor, for parking her on the road during the night.... (as if we would do this. :eyes: )


The diagram as on the site of Stefan (www.fordson-dexta.de) is correct. Presume that is the one you mention.

Re: ???

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:10 pm
by naildriver
Jos Cuypers wrote:Legally, the parking lights should be able to be turned on when the ignition key is not on the tractor, for parking her on the road during the night.... (as if we would do this. :eyes: )


The diagram as on the site of Stefan (www.fordson-dexta.de) is correct. Presume that is the one you mention.
Yes, that is the diagram I was refering to. So other than legally, do you see any problems with the way I did it concerning battery drain issues?My boat battery has similar issues, Don't want to deal with it on my tractor too.

Re: ???

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:49 am
by Jos Cuypers
What about the control box, because this is sometimes the cause for batteries to drain down. ? Is this disconnected when the key is Off ?

I have installed the battery key (between + and chassis) so the wiring is as original and with that key OFF, the battery is certainly disconnected..

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:48 am
by Brian
The ignition side of the switch was not designed for the current loads drawn by the headlights so eventually there may be issues here.

The way to do it would be similar to modern car systems, power the head lights through a relay that, itself is controled by the ignition switch.

Switch on .. relay activated .. lights can be used.
Swich off .. relay deactivated .. head lights turned off.

Re: ???

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:14 pm
by Bensdexta
Jos Cuypers wrote:I have installed the battery key (between + and chassis) so the wiring is as original and with that key OFF, the battery is certainly disconnected..
Jos,
Where did you install the battery key?

new plan

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:44 am
by naildriver
Brian wrote:The ignition side of the switch was not designed for the current loads drawn by the headlights so eventually there may be issues here.

The way to do it would be similar to modern car systems, power the head lights through a relay that, itself is controled by the ignition switch.

Switch on .. relay activated .. lights can be used.
Swich off .. relay deactivated .. head lights turned off.
This is what I will do. I had given this idea some thought because the wiring as bad as it was before I started showed that the insulation had melted off the wire going to the keyed switch. To much power being pulled through the "key" so this will solve that. Thanks Brian

Re: ???

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:51 pm
by Jos Cuypers
Location : Just under the dieselfilter against the engine - transmission flange
Wiring : between battery and chassis
Bensdexta wrote:Jos,
Where did you install the battery key?