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New Engine

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:54 pm
by woodseaves
Will this fit my 1960 standard Dexta and is it a reasonable price?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Perkins-A3-152-Sh ... 51862301db

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:04 pm
by Jerry Coles
HI
The EBay ad says its for a Dexta and it's a A3.153 engine with rope seals.
There are some differences between a MF35 block and a Dexta block.
The MF 35 had its fuel pump driven on the RHS by an extra lobe on the Camshaft so expect to find an aperture with 4 fixing holes to take the pump. This needs to be blanked off and sealed.
Also the MF35 block has a drive adapter for its Tachometer at the rear of the Camshaft - again blanked off and sealed.
Apart from that I don't know of any other differences but I'm sure theres somebody out there who does.
BTW Agriline do the same block for about £700!
Regards
Jerry
Camerton
Bath

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:11 pm
by woodseaves
Cheers Jerry,

That went a bit over my head, I will only be buying it, I'll have to find a man to fit it. I still have to determine whats wrong with mine.

I had a feeling it would be more expensive than Agriline.

Euge

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:14 pm
by Jerry Coles
I'll send a couple of pics soon
Jerry

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:20 pm
by woodseaves
Cheers Jerry your a star.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:53 pm
by Bensdexta
Don't panic! Before buying another engine, I would find out exactly what is wrong with yours. It may not be as bad as you fear. A complete engine rebuild shouldn't cost hugely over £1000 and you're unlikely to need that. Also it's good to keep your tractor original, with it's original engine.
Get a frindly member of your local tractor club to take a look & advise.
All the best,

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:22 am
by woodseaves
Cheers Ben, your right of course.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:32 am
by Bensdexta
How are the oil and water levels? :?:

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:10 am
by woodseaves
I'll just have a coffee and go and check.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:57 am
by woodseaves
The oil is at the last L of full, but the water was empty I guess, as I filled it up it started to leak out, I can't see exactly where it is coming from but it appears to be somewhere in the centre of the engine just behind the radiator not under the engine but in front.

When I turned her over yesterday I could hear water being expelled from somewhere (I think).

I don't suppose there is anyone near me, half way between Hay and Kington (Herefordshire) who could pop over and have a look!!

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:38 am
by Gavin
That sounds like water pump, a hose or thermostat housing in that area.
I'm about an hour away from you in Pontypool, not sure if anyone else is closer.
Gavin

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:41 am
by woodseaves
Something went badly wrong to stop the engine, it went from completely out of control revving wildly, smoke everywhere to stopped. Now it leaks water, what happened to stop it?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:55 am
by Gavin
There are many reasons why it may have stopped if it was over revving. Does it turn over by hand without locking up?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:56 am
by YorkshireDextaMan
I would go along with what Ben says on this. upto a point that is, because if your engine has issues, like for example cracked block (which can be repaired but still costs), damaged parts like crank and con-rods, , You really cant tell untill it's dismantled.
Engineer shops aint cheap, and everything will have 17.5% added.
Weigh it all up and a replacement could look a better option, but i would say if you go for new , shop around an ask for a big Discount, They wont sell that many and they put it on to take it off, if you get what i mean. Jim

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:03 pm
by woodseaves
I have a man (good friend owns an engineer factory) coming round this evening to weigh it up. I'll keep updating

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:42 pm
by woodseaves
I have just dipped the oil again and it is showing well above full which indicates that it is fullish with water, this doesn't sound good even to me. What do those who know think?

Regards

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:35 pm
by Bensdexta
woodseaves wrote:I have just dipped the oil again and it is showing well above full which indicates that it is fullish with water, this doesn't sound good even to me. What do those who know think?
Drain the engine and catch what comes out. Any water will be at the bottom because oil floats. Also see if there's any metal bits in there.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:14 pm
by woodseaves
Might take some time- I'm having trouble with the plug in the sump (as usual)

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:08 pm
by Bensdexta
woodseaves wrote:Might take some time- I'm having trouble with the plug in the sump (as usual)
If you can't shift the plug, drop the strainer - gently so as not to get soaked :wink:

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:55 pm
by woodseaves
Ben, Is that the round thing with a load of bolts next to the plug?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:20 pm
by Bensdexta
woodseaves wrote:Ben, Is that the round thing with a load of bolts next to the plug?
Yes, that's it. It's described in the Workshop Manual. Should be removed and cleaned when you change the oil. :wink:

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:07 pm
by Jerry Coles
Hi
Here's a picture of my Agriline block taken rear right showing fuel pump mounting holes and aperture on the side and the external tacho drive at the rear (which I have plugged with a core plug).

Image
Regard
Jerry
Camerton
Bath

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:54 am
by Lesfen
Jerry,

Is it an actual Perkins block or a copy?
Does it have a serial number or other casting numbers?
Curious!
Thanks,
Les

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:24 am
by Jerry Coles
Hi Les
I purchased it from Agriline.
There is no serial No and no cast names.
There appears to be two small holes on the other side near the top which may be holes for ID plate rivets but thats all.
The casting seems to be well cast and finished with the cylinder liners honed and all threads tapped OK.
The real test will be when I get it installed and running.
I have acquired a T adapter so I can fit the oil presssure switch and a gauge to monitor the oil pressure on first ever start and early running.
Regards
Jerry
Camerton
Bath

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:05 pm
by Gavin
woodseaves wrote:I have a man (good friend owns an engineer factory) coming round this evening to weigh it up. I'll keep updating
Any news on the issues with your engine yet?