build date?

old bill · Post by **old bill** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:38 pm

Hello,
I am looking for help to determine the build date for our Fordson Super Dexta.
The 'Serial Number' stamped in the flange on the left side (ie, the position indicated on the website http://www.fordsontractorpages.nl/serial.htm for the tractor serial number) is: 09C 923226. I note that this is close to the range given on the website for Super Dextas for 1963 (Jun-Dec) but that this range of numbers decreases , from '916556' to '907331', and our number would therefore not be included. Is there any chance that this is a typo, and the upper range should go to, maybe, '927331'? We would thus have a 1963 model?
Also, on the right side of the gearbox, near the brake pedals, is the number :' 957E 7005'. Is this the clutch or gearbox casting code? It looks like the Dexta serial number for 1958....so I'm a little confused.

Many thanks for any advice,

Old Bill

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:33 pm

09C makes your tractor a 1963 model.

Check your casting codes. The 7005 no. you mention is not a casting code, see the info in the General section of the main website. You are looking for a number starting J or 3, to indicate 1963.

Also check your engine no, that will help date your tractor too.

Post by **Brian** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:34 am

From February 1963 Dexta numbers changed completely. January 1963 numbers started 09C732***, in February they then went to 09C900001 and ran consecutivly until January 1964 when they went back to 09D907332 and started another run.

So, fromthe serial number you have given your tractor is a 1963, probably around September/October build.

Find your way to the Wiki on this site via the main page, www.fordsontractorpages.nl or via the link on "Miscellaneous" forum, Code words "fordsontractorpages" and "dotty", you will find an article with pictures on "Dating your Dexta", It shows where all the casting codes are.

old bill · Post by **old bill** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:43 pm

Thanks very much for the advice. I'll try to follow the links and pursue this.

Old Bill

oldrocker72 · Post by **oldrocker72** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:38 pm

Hi im not sure if this is the right place to post this but im trying to find out sum info on my dexta the serial number is 957e 68405 ive been told its a super dexta but the serial number dont seem right to me plus ive also been told its a transcitional dexta sorry for the spelling if its a trans dexta what is different about them to standard dextas as i wish to restore my old gal to her origanal colours as shes got red blue orange and yellow on her at the mo many thanks for any info is much appreciated regards mark

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:44 am

oldrocker72 wrote:Hi im not sure if this is the right place to post this but im trying to find out sum info on my dexta the serial number is 957e 68405 ive been told its a super dexta but the serial number dont seem right to me plus ive also been told its a transcitional dexta sorry for the spelling if its a trans dexta what is different about them to standard dextas as i wish to restore my old gal to her origanal colours as shes got red blue orange and yellow on her at the mo many thanks for any info is much appreciated regards mark

Your serial no indicates your tractor is one of the first so-called 'New Style' Dextas dating from about Nov 1960. Defo not a Super D.

New Style was a fairly minor facelift with headlights moving to the radiator grills and different bonnet ornaments. Colours remained the same: Empire blue, Orange wheels (Howard Rotavator orange) - don't ask about the colour of the grills (just search on here!

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Suggest you check your casting codes to confirm she's not a bitsa. See general section of main website.

oldrocker72 · Post by **oldrocker72** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:05 pm

many thanks for the info bensdexta il defo look at the casting codes guess il afta change the body work as its got a super dexta nose cone and a lambourn cab but im gonna pursue this if i work it out i will load sum pics at sum point many thanks again regards mark

ok the casting codes ive found are as follows
engine code N10O/00280098F
clutch casting m20d
gear box casting H1F
rear axle rh side M25D
casting under the seat N21D
thats the only numbers ive been able to find but from looking on here its parts were cast november 1960 and october of 1961 so im guessing my dextas a bitsa or ive been reading the casting date system wrong so any help from the good people on here is very much appreciated many thanks mark

Post by **Brian** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:31 pm

You are reading the codes correctly, possibly she may have had a new gearbox housing for some reason as all the other dates are within the spread we could expect.

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:55 pm

oldrocker72 wrote:...ok the casting codes ive found are as follows
engine code N10O/00280098F
...

OK, N10O is your engine casting code, which acccording to Lesfen's decoding system is 10 Nov 1960, which fits with your other dates (exc gearbox). So it looks like you have the original engine - BTW hope the block is not cracked, alot are. However the second number you quote is not a serial no (all the blocks have this same no). To find your eng number look here, where there is a shiny strip above the fuel pump, just behind the water pipe. I expect your eng no will start 147 (or maybe 146):

Look forward to your pics

oldrocker72 · Post by **oldrocker72** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:00 pm

ah i see i know the number you mean of the top of my head its 14707## sumthing the next time im at the dexta i will ave a look and im lucky the engine block is in top condition as we use her to make hay with every year so she runs sweet as a nut but this is her last year as were getting bigger machinery for next year as were hoping to move into contract work next year i was talking to a mate of mine whos got a massey 65 he said i should be able to get the original reg plate is tht easy or hard to do any info on doing this would be handy reagrds mark

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:31 pm

oldrocker72 wrote:ah i see i know the number you mean of the top of my head its 14707## sumthing the next time im at the dexta i will ave a look and im lucky the engine block is in top condition as we use her to make hay with every year so she runs sweet as a nut but this is her last year as were getting bigger machinery for next year as were hoping to move into contract work next year i was talking to a mate of mine whos got a massey 65 he said i should be able to get the original reg plate is tht easy or hard to do any info on doing this would be handy reagrds mark

So that's almost certainly the original engine (standard dexta, defo not Super) To get an age related plate, you will need to get your tractor inspected by a suitable tractor club to vouch for its originality. Have a search on here, there are lots of threads about it. Do you know what the original reg was, eg have you the old buff log book?

You may have a problem as it doesn't seem to have the original gearbox, so they might want to give you a Q reg. Others can advise better than me about this. What happened to the original gearbox - maybe it could be repaired?

May I ask what hay making kit you use her with? Have you done any baling with her? If so what baler?

Looking forward to some photos when you get a mo from haymaking

oldrocker72 · Post by **oldrocker72** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:40 am

AH i may have a problem then with getting the original reg plate as i dont have the buff book it didnt even have a number plate when i bought it about 15 years ago from my local vintage dealer i dont know were he got it from or what happened to the original gear box the engine number is 1470729 as ive had a quick look this morning the haymaking kit we use is a farendlose twin drum mower but she struggles with it makes her get very very very hot so my mate does the mowing with his international 685 but we use a lely mk2 haybob and a new holland super hayliner 68 baler which she runs as easy as anything never finds it a struggle but weve bought aload of bigger stuff this year so the dexta can go n retire gracefully as shes been our main work horse for the past 7 years as my gramps nuffield tvo as up n died on us and is just shoved in the hay barn now im still trying to load the pics ive got

regards mark

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:06 am

oldrocker72 wrote:AH i may have a problem then with getting the original reg plate as i dont have the buff book it didnt even have a number plate when i bought it about 15 years ago from my local vintage dealer i dont know were he got it from or what happened to the original gear box the engine number is 1470729 as ive had a quick look this morning the haymaking kit we use is a farendlose twin drum mower but she struggles with it makes her get very very very hot so my mate does the mowing with his international 685 but we use a lely mk2 haybob and a new holland super hayliner 68 baler which she runs as easy as anything never finds it a struggle but weve bought aload of bigger stuff this year so the dexta can go n retire gracefully as shes been our main work horse for the past 7 years as my gramps nuffield tvo as up n died on us and is just shoved in the hay barn now im still trying to load the pics ive got

Mark,
If you don't know the original reg, you may still get an 'age related' reg, ie appopriate to a 1960 vehicle. I don't know if the 1961 gearbox will be a prob; I guess it will help your cause if the other bits are the correct age, so worth trying to decifer the rear housing and left axle cast codes.

How reliable do you find the old NH68 baler? Does she get shaken a lotby the baler, have you weighted her or ballasted the rear tyres?

Pics of you hay kit would be great (email them to me if you're stuck with uploading them)

oldrocker72 · Post by **oldrocker72** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:43 pm

IVE found the L/H cast no m20d so its all original apart from the gear box then and nah she baler hardly shakes the tractor at all had the baler for over ten years and never had to do anything apart from service the baler each year but the tractors not weighted or ballasted and ive put all the pictures in one folder and im looking at how to load them on here
regards mark

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:21 pm

oldrocker72 wrote:IVE found the L/H cast no m20d so its all original apart from the gear box then and nah she baler hardly shakes the tractor at all had the baler for over ten years and never had to do anything apart from service the baler each year but the tractors not weighted or ballasted and ive put all the pictures in one folder and im looking at how to load them on here
regards mark

There should be one more cast code, for the back end, ie the bit the rear axle trumpets bolt onto.

Posting pics is simples.

Just upload your photos to photobucket website (you will need to register first.)
When uploaded, use the resize facility to size them to 640x480 pixels.
Then click on the link box (in photobucket), to store the link to the photo you want.
Paste that link into your post on here.
Hey presto up comes your pic.

So the NH68 is a pretty reliable baler? Does it produce a tight bale? How many do you do each year? What type of string do you use, hemp or plastic?

Good luck

oldrocker72 · Post by **oldrocker72** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:11 pm

ok i will ave a look for this last casting code but im guessing the only thing that is not original is my gear box which i can live with i will also look at loading pics yeah the nh68 is the best baler weve ever had it does a realy tight bale it depends on the press and wot ur putting through it if its heavy crop then dont ave the press on to far or urd never lift the bales and we us plastic twine and do about 500 bales each year it will be more this year as im baling 30 acres for my friend as he aint got a baler anymore we do ave a bamford bl59 but its seized up and dont move anymore and thanks for the luck regards mark

ok ive looked at the back axle and theres no casting date on her all it says is T2 12345678910 wiv another 1 above the 9 then it got 957e 4042 so im totaly confused as to why my dextas back axle is marked up like that

regards mark

my dexta at last ive workedout how to load pics

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