Wide front tyres

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:26 pm

Does anyone know what size rims will fit to take wider than the standard 6.00 x 16 tyres in order to fit a front loader.

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:37 pm

i bought 2 new 5.50X16 wheels and fitted 2 part worn 205X16 colway all terrains off a landrover. these tyres are wider than the normal 3 rib and take the weight better with the larger foot print.

Regards
James

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:14 pm

Thanks for the tip James, i'll look into that.

Post by **Brian** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:26 am

Just a word of caution. The width of the tyres may put an extra load on the steering box. I have 6.00x16 on the front of my Fergy with a MIL loader, I did have 4.00x19. In some situations the smaller tyres steer easier.

The Swanndri Guy · Post by **The Swanndri Guy** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:13 am

If you use nonstandard rims on a Dexta you will also have to watch the offset the replacement rims have.Land Rover tyres will load up the steering. (Unless you have power assisted steering.)My experience would be to use 3 rib 6.00X16 on a Dexta even with a FEL.

Post by **Brian** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:48 am

And if you reverse the discs to get clearance, you increase the loading on the axle components.

Stick with 6.00x16 or buy a bigger tractor.

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:54 am

with the tyres on i have i can still turn the steering with one hand even with the fork fully loaded. the tyres are inflated to 50psi. i dont find any problems at all with these tyres and it drives better down the road aswell. If you look in the implement section and ransomes robin plough there is a link to my plough and tractor pics and you will see my tyres on there.

Regards
James

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:23 pm

Thanks for all the advice chaps, seems like the 6.00x16's are the best way to go. I don't want to go making trouble for myself although i was thinking of fitting power steering to counteract the width of the tyres, what do you reckon to that idea?

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:44 pm

you could fit power steering but i dont see any point in it and if it fails the steering will get heavyer. 205-16 are the metric version of 600X16 you could find some narrower tyres any tyre works to be honest as long as the tyre will take the weight loading. and if you make a weight block up for the back the steering will be like its powerd.

Regards
James

The Swanndri Guy · Post by **The Swanndri Guy** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:18 am

Ambidextarous, to reduce the loading on the front axle and steering you could apply ballast at the rear of your tractor ( steel or concrete),rear wheel weights(can you get them for a Dexta?)or fill your rear tyres with Dihydrogen monoxide.Cheers TSG.

Post by **Brian** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:28 pm

I find a problem with weight on the back

I usually get myself deeper into the s**t because of the extra grip and that means more load on the front axle

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:47 pm

im going down the liquid ballest route on my dexta as i need to balance the wieght of the loader when im ploughing since i carnt carry the oil barrel contrete weight when doing this as it seems to be a bit light at the back. where as our nuffield doesnt need the extra weight when we are using the loader carrying the big square hay bales out of the barn.

Regards
James

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:04 pm

O.K., after weighing up the advice given, i'm ordering a pair of 6.00x16's tomorrow. That's one question solved, the other is relating to the loader itself. The loader i have looks the same as the one in jambug's plough pic. I want to fit a ram to tip the bucket or pallet forks. I'm assuming there's enough hydraulic oil in the system to operate both loader arms and bucket ram, but how would you pipe the fluid to the operating levers. I'm thinking of working the arms off one of these levers rather than using the rear linkage arms lever at the side of the seat. ( I hope all of this makes sense)

Thanks, Steve.

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:00 am

i run my loader off a spool valve block on them you have oil in from the auxillery service, loader , return to back axle. then you just have the Tractor auxillery service running the valve block and set the lever to constant pumping.
I was thinking of changing mine to a hydraulic but i prefer the trip.

Regards
James

Nevis · Post by **Nevis** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:27 pm

My loader is set up in the same way as James - I have 2 spool valves and have added a tip cylinder for the front bucket. I have also welded some brackets to a 3point pallet fork so can use this on the front of the loader. Having the tip cylinder makes these forks extremely useful

Andy

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:33 pm

Any chance of some pics from you chaps, we seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet . While i'm at it, James, can you get a pic or describe where you fit the bracket that goes between the bottom of the radiator guard and the front axle. The bracket that came with the loader is far too short to reach anything and i need to make one up, thanks,

Steve.

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:15 pm

Yeah not a problem i had to make one up for mine to fit, i will take them tomorrow when im up at the farm.

regards
James

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:11 pm

took some photos of the loader mounting and spool valve pipeing today they are large photos and a few of them so i put them in a link.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16320247@N ... 641155078/

Regards
James

Nevis · Post by **Nevis** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:22 am

Some photos of my Horndraulic loader piping

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:01 pm

Thanks for the pics, i've now got something to work with. I now need to know what bolts to use to fit the loader to the tractor. I'm going to crawl underneath with a welding rod to find the depth of the holes but 1) what type of thread are they, are they coarse or fine thread? 2) do i use standard or spring washers? Next question, my log splitter needs a return into the back end, this is where the return from the spool valves goes. Am i right in thinking if i use quick release couplings i can change over from loader to splitter as and when required?

BTW i'm not doing this myself, i'm taking the whole lot down to a chap in Northants. to be restored as i haven't got the facilities or technical capabilities to do it myself. He'll take pics of each step of the resto which will be posted on here when it gets back.
Thanks again for the invaluable help

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:32 pm

When crawling under aforementioned tractor i found the holes i was measuring were for the pick up hitch and nothing remotely to do with the loader. I think i may have been in the sun too long

Nevis · Post by **Nevis** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:29 am

I have a log splitter which has its own spool valve and which I use a lot - if you look at the 3rd picture the pressure is coupled to the quick release furthest away and the closest quick release is the return which is T'd into the back axle filler - the other T is the return from the front loader spool valves.
The pressure connection is connected to the auxiliary output which is also T'd to the loader. In order to use the log splitter a I close a valve on the auxiliary output which diverts the fluid to the log splitter. I cannot use the log splitter and loader at the same time.

Andy

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:49 pm

Andy, you've got the same set-up i was thinking about. What's the furthest coupling for, a tipping trailer?

Steve.

Nevis · Post by **Nevis** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:17 am

Originally the furthest fitting was only for a tipping trailer (ie a single acting cylinder on the trailer) but now by putting in the return to the back axle it can provide a continuous flow to a spool valve on, in my case, a log splitter.

Andy

Ambidextarous · Post by **Ambidextarous** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:19 pm

I think that's all my loader questions answered, it's certainly given me something to chew on. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this topic, much appreciated.

Steve.